Well said. I've espoused the theory that we should have a tight-fisted government and a ridiculously generous Church. But we seem to have quite the opposite much of the time.
It seems to me that the in-your-face example of those without and kind of depth-based level of self awareness are the true believers (both secular and "religious") of the Trump based MAGA cult.
His rallies are exercises in mass psychosis.
Their adored leader is straight out of the there- is- a- sucker- born- every- minute showbiz tradition of P T Barnum. Barnum was of course wrong - there are thousands of suckers born every minute.
Jesus was of course scathingly critical of both the ecclesiastical and political establishments of his time and place, for which he was executed as a common trouble-making criminal.
I wonder what Jesus would have to say about Christian nationalism, whether in the USA or in any other country. Who would Jesus shoot or bomb?
Jesus of course was never ever in any sense a Christian. Nor did he found the would be power-and-control-seeking institutional religion (cult) about him, every minute fraction of which was founded/fabricated by people who never ever met Jesus up close and personal in a living-breathing-feeling human form
So...you're saying that Christian Nationalists are indistinguishable from psychotic Trump acolytes who want to bomb things and shoot people? Oookay. Have you read anything at all by self-proclaimed Christian Nationalists? Do you really think they're uniformly followers of Trump? Actually, Trump is completely irrelevant to my theme in this post. My theme, fwiw, was not even to establish the merits of Christian Nationalism per se. It was merely to point out that Progressive Christians are as rabidly political as the most politically charged Christians on the other side, even if the Progressives won't admit it. Their "above it all" pose is at once both tedious and tiresome.
The following is not germane to my post, but since you brought it up, I want to point out that Jesus was not killed because he criticized someone. "No one takes my life from me, I lay it down of my own accord," he said. So he and his father orchestrated the entire thing. But from a narrowly human vantage point, the proximate cause of his crucifixion was specifically his claim to be the son of God. (Mark 14:53-65) They tried to condemn him on other trumped up charges, of course. In the end, though, his trial devolved into a referendum on his rather bold claim, made during the trial, that he was the son of God. I myself have always thought there was something almost poetic about his accusers ultimately being forced to publicly declare their position on this central question of Jesus' identity.
Well said. I've espoused the theory that we should have a tight-fisted government and a ridiculously generous Church. But we seem to have quite the opposite much of the time.
Is “progressive Christian” an oxymoron?
They certainly don't think so, but you have a point.
It seems to me that the in-your-face example of those without and kind of depth-based level of self awareness are the true believers (both secular and "religious") of the Trump based MAGA cult.
His rallies are exercises in mass psychosis.
Their adored leader is straight out of the there- is- a- sucker- born- every- minute showbiz tradition of P T Barnum. Barnum was of course wrong - there are thousands of suckers born every minute.
Jesus was of course scathingly critical of both the ecclesiastical and political establishments of his time and place, for which he was executed as a common trouble-making criminal.
I wonder what Jesus would have to say about Christian nationalism, whether in the USA or in any other country. Who would Jesus shoot or bomb?
Jesus of course was never ever in any sense a Christian. Nor did he found the would be power-and-control-seeking institutional religion (cult) about him, every minute fraction of which was founded/fabricated by people who never ever met Jesus up close and personal in a living-breathing-feeling human form
So...you're saying that Christian Nationalists are indistinguishable from psychotic Trump acolytes who want to bomb things and shoot people? Oookay. Have you read anything at all by self-proclaimed Christian Nationalists? Do you really think they're uniformly followers of Trump? Actually, Trump is completely irrelevant to my theme in this post. My theme, fwiw, was not even to establish the merits of Christian Nationalism per se. It was merely to point out that Progressive Christians are as rabidly political as the most politically charged Christians on the other side, even if the Progressives won't admit it. Their "above it all" pose is at once both tedious and tiresome.
The following is not germane to my post, but since you brought it up, I want to point out that Jesus was not killed because he criticized someone. "No one takes my life from me, I lay it down of my own accord," he said. So he and his father orchestrated the entire thing. But from a narrowly human vantage point, the proximate cause of his crucifixion was specifically his claim to be the son of God. (Mark 14:53-65) They tried to condemn him on other trumped up charges, of course. In the end, though, his trial devolved into a referendum on his rather bold claim, made during the trial, that he was the son of God. I myself have always thought there was something almost poetic about his accusers ultimately being forced to publicly declare their position on this central question of Jesus' identity.